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🧙 House Stark Believed Aegon's Dream of Doom | #houseofthedragon
In the first season of House of the Dragon I made a video about aegon the conqueror’s dream of the Others and one topic I touched on was the curious surrender of the last King of Winter Torrhen Stark to Aegon the conqueror. In my video, I theorized that Aegon shared his dream of death coming from beyond the wall with Torrhen and their shared purpose led the king of winter to bending the knee. In this first episode, HOTD has given me in particular a bounty of information that goes a long way to confirming my suspicions about the words that passed between Aegon and Torrhen.
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🧙 Do the Targaryens control their dragons? #houseofthedragon
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When Vhagar's jaws exploded prince Lucerys and his dragon Arrax, who was really to blame for that? Vhagar, the one who actually did the big chomp chomp? Aemond, who urged his dragon to hunt the pair? In this video, I take a stab at that question and explore it from the perspective of one of the most mysterious parts of House Targaryen: the dragonbond and how it allows them to control (or not co...
🧙 The Tragedy of Prince Lucerys Velaryon #houseofthedragon
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🧙 The Tragedy of Prince Lucerys Velaryon #houseofthedragon
🧙 Why Harrenhal is the Most CURSED Place in Westeros | House of the Dragon
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🧙 Why Harrenhal is the Most CURSED Place in Westeros | House of the Dragon
🧙 Larys and Alicent's foot scene is much worse than you think | House of the Dragon
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🧙 Larys and Alicent's foot scene is much worse than you think | House of the Dragon
🧙 The Song Valyrian Steel Sings | House of the Dragon
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🧙 The Song Valyrian Steel Sings | House of the Dragon
🧙 Helaena Targaryen knows her future | House of the Dragon Reupload
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🧙 Helaena Targaryen knows her future | House of the Dragon Reupload
🧙 Helaena Targaryen knows her future | House of the Dragon Original
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🧙 Helaena Targaryen knows her future | House of the Dragon Original
🧙 Larys Strong is a Greenseer | House of the Dragon
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🧙 Larys Strong is a Greenseer | House of the Dragon
🧙The Tragedy of Willem Blackwood | House of the Dragon
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🧙The Tragedy of Willem Blackwood | House of the Dragon
🧙Larys Strong: Spymaster and Greenseer of the Weirwoods
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🧙Larys Strong: Spymaster and Greenseer of the Weirwoods
🧙 The episode that won me over : House of the Dragon Episode 3
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🧙 The episode that won me over : House of the Dragon Episode 3
🧙 Are the Maesters sabotaging the Targaryens? | House of the Dragon
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🧙 Are the Maesters sabotaging the Targaryens? | House of the Dragon
🧙 Why didn't the Targaryens do anything about the White Walkers? | House of the Dragon
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🧙 Why didn't the Targaryens do anything about the White Walkers? | House of the Dragon
🧙 King Visery's Huge Mistake | House of the Dragon
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🧙 King Visery's Huge Mistake | House of the Dragon
🧙 Why Aegon Targaryen conquered Westeros | House of the Dragon
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🧙 Why Aegon Targaryen conquered Westeros | House of the Dragon
🧙 Final House of the Dragon Trailer Reaction and Analysis
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🧙 Final House of the Dragon Trailer Reaction and Analysis
🧙 The Essential and Magical House of the Dragon Teaser Breakdown
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🧙 The Essential and Magical House of the Dragon Teaser Breakdown
🧙 An Appropriately Long Video about a Short Teaser | House of the Dragon
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🧙 An Appropriately Long Video about a Short Teaser | House of the Dragon
🧙 Robb Stark's Resurrection and the next Red Wedding
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🧙 Robb Stark's Resurrection and the next Red Wedding
🧙 The Secret Identity of the Tattered Prince | ASOIAF Theory
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🧙 The Secret Identity of the Tattered Prince | ASOIAF Theory
🧙 The Five Year Gap Explained
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🧙 The Five Year Gap Explained
🧙 How Young Griff will take Storm's End | Winds of Winter Theory
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🧙 How Young Griff will take Storm's End | Winds of Winter Theory
🧙 The Value of Arya's Iron Coin | ASOIAF Theory
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🧙 A Targaryen murder mystery on Dragonstone | Fire and Blood
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🧙 Why House of the Dragon dethroned the Long Night | GOT Prequel News
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🧙 Are the White Walkers gone for good? | Game of Thrones
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🧙 Are the White Walkers gone for good? | Game of Thrones
🧙 Bran Stark as king is worse than you think
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🧙 Bran Stark as king is worse than you think
🧙‍♂️ Life and Death of Game of Thrones Fan Theories | Con of Thrones Panel
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🧙‍♂️ Life and Death of Game of Thrones Fan Theories | Con of Thrones Panel
🧙 Game of Thrones The Iron Throne review: A Dream of Spring
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🧙 Game of Thrones The Iron Throne review: A Dream of Spring

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @matthall7331
    @matthall7331 3 хвилини тому

    Keep up the great work

  • @user-uu2sb8sw5w
    @user-uu2sb8sw5w Годину тому

    Great

  • @cassianandor1844
    @cassianandor1844 Годину тому

    This is awesome

  • @DD-ok2pt
    @DD-ok2pt 3 години тому

    Did you just solve the “Mad” King’s rantings . Was he seeing Cersei and or Danearys burning King’s Landing?

  • @LarthV
    @LarthV 4 години тому

    It seems quite obvious that the knowledge was lost on the Targaryen and on the Stark sides due to succession crisis. The obvious case are the Targaryens, where the profecy basically _cannot_ have passed to Aegon III, since he was likely too young to be told, but even if - the step from Baelor I to Aegon IV and from Maekar I to Aegon V are other reasonable backup candidates. At the same time, it is unlikely that Eddard would have been told by Rickard, even if Rickard knew: Brandon was the heir, and Ned had been in the vale since forever....

  • @nj3195
    @nj3195 5 годин тому

    Your theory is solid. I notice we mention Aegon and his dream/ prophecy but I hardly think Bran was the only Stark Green seers and perhaps Creegan Stark had the ability too. So you have a dragon dreamer and a Green seer! None of which can be shared with mushroom or the maesters! It’s possible that the Targaryens knew about the Starks abilities but this information was lost by Jahaerys’ time and rediscovered by him and his queen. The GOT universe does focus a lot on memory. Just saying 😊

  • @joberlin7387
    @joberlin7387 5 годин тому

    Regarding Helaena pointing, I have this idea in my head that her vision showed her events unfolding like in Fire& Blood, i.e. Blood& Cheese killing the child she _didn't_ point at. So she pointed at her son to save his life, but it didn't work

  • @oasisrules6591
    @oasisrules6591 6 годин тому

    Blood and Cheese killed King Aegon's bastard nephew, not his son. Prince Aemond is the real father of those children!

  • @prasannabalaji1886
    @prasannabalaji1886 6 годин тому

    In GoT didn't denaerys's dragon flew past wall??

  • @davidlee50
    @davidlee50 7 годин тому

    I wish Hogwarts Legacy allowed us to raise Dragon Eggs. It would make the game more exciting and open to improvement.

  • @kikijames7925
    @kikijames7925 7 годин тому

    Haleana predicted Son for a Son's (S2, Episode 1) outcome.

  • @jaberwocky812
    @jaberwocky812 8 годин тому

    Damn dude. Please don’t be so wishy washey on your opinion! It’s your channel. If you read the books HOW could this be better?!

    • @UserNo1000
      @UserNo1000 7 годин тому

      Damn dude, go start your own channel and let Matt give his opinions without your useless criticisms

  • @Jazzinthedark84
    @Jazzinthedark84 8 годин тому

    The actor who plays Larys' quote is also a bit like "only death can pay for life"

  • @priscillamontoya
    @priscillamontoya 8 годин тому

    Maybe Helena knew her daughter would eventually become Queen and survive where everyone else would not.

  • @PzY-Reviews
    @PzY-Reviews 9 годин тому

    Vaghar : Bastard nuggets are best with bbw Aemond: 👁️👄🌐

  • @roddammit5510
    @roddammit5510 10 годин тому

    Love ya @JoeTheMagician

  • @omarbey3868
    @omarbey3868 10 годин тому

    Thank you for the video. I thought the episode was good. However, it felt a bit rushed. I am concerned because there are only 8 episodes in this season. Since "Fire and Blood" is not a novel but more of a history book, this is an opportunity for them to embellish the story. In short, show their writing talents. I saw a lot of missed opportunities in episode 1. I really did not like the dialog between Jace and Stark. It seemed so perfunctory. Almost as if they were not having a conversion but just talking out loud to themselves. And where is Sarah Snow!!!? I guess there are no dragon eggs in the Winterfell Crypts either. They could at least show the Dragon sitting in the Winterfell bailey or inner ward :-) The scene was more of an introduction of a chekhov's gun named Cregan Stark.

  • @hotimportknight
    @hotimportknight 12 годин тому

    Why don't the old men and extra mouths that traditionally go out on a "hunt" never to return at the start of winter just go to the wall and train people and be useful for free food?

    • @JoeMagician
      @JoeMagician 10 годин тому

      That's a good question! I think some do, like Jeor Mormont where he gave up his seat to his son while still alive. Perhaps some do make their way up to the Wall if they have useful skills and can still do some good on the Wall. But I suspect the reason is to not be a burden on the Watch having to suddenly, on the onset of winter, feed and house and arm a whole bunch of new aged recruits. They have the same problems the entire North does, except magnified by their duties. It's kinda just shuffling the burden of their care from their families to the Watch.

  • @189Moncho
    @189Moncho 12 годин тому

    Strong upbringing

  • @bungalowfeuhler1541
    @bungalowfeuhler1541 12 годин тому

    Could make for a good excuse to start A Song of Ice and Fire, the animated series, sooner. Season one, A Game of Thrones.

  • @anyashindler3781
    @anyashindler3781 13 годин тому

    I actually really like this addition and it does make sense that it is gone by the start of game of thrones. The Starks actually had a succession crisis during the time of Dunk and Egg. It would make sense that the practice of offering Stark men to the Wall as a tithe would stop after this crisis.

  • @Manofthewhiteknife
    @Manofthewhiteknife 13 годин тому

    I think you're center bullseye...

  • @leosunflowerdiva6463
    @leosunflowerdiva6463 14 годин тому

    Someone please answer. Why was Cregan at the Wall and not Winterfell?

  • @donkeydarko77
    @donkeydarko77 14 годин тому

    Everything in this episode felt undercooked.

  • @aprilmae274
    @aprilmae274 15 годин тому

    It's literally the End of the World. Jon thinks to himself that once beyond the Wall they have entered a different world. Nobody believes me yet but in text the Catspaw dagger is already North when GoT opens. Sometime during THIS show THAT dagger goes North for protection and to be hidden.

  • @gleann_cuilinn
    @gleann_cuilinn 15 годин тому

    Hoods off to the builders in black for inventing elevators

  • @bwminich
    @bwminich 15 годин тому

    I’m thinking it’s more and more likely that Larys let Blood and Cheese happen. Why? Well, look what the prince’s death is going to cause. It’s going to push Aegon to war, which is going to undermine Otto: Layrs will be able to make a stronger sale that Otto needs to go, he’s been counseling a peace with the guys who just killed your son. It also will undermine Alicent’s position in some ways. Her line and security will be undermined, and she’s the one who has the most to lose by that becoming shakier. Especially when he hopes he’ll be able to successfully undermine Otto. Making her more dependent on someone (him, hopefully!) is gonna help Larys

  • @DaringDan
    @DaringDan 16 годин тому

    Gosh, I really wish I hadn't read F&B before watching the show. I'd have really enjoyed it.

  • @ProbableMuppet
    @ProbableMuppet 17 годин тому

    The first thought I had at the end of this episode was they should have gotten the Cohen brothers to direct this episode. Their whole thing is botched crimes that go terribly wrong. They could have hired John Goodman to play Blood, Steve Buscemi as Cheese, maybe have them talk in a funny accent. It would have been hilarious.

  • @Ring3R
    @Ring3R 17 годин тому

    Fairly certain this same knowledge of prophecy is why Benjen joined the Night's Watch too, even though that left Ned as the only remaining adult Stark. Benjen was very close with Lyanna....Rhaegar would have told Lyanna about the prophecy...and she likely told Benjen. I think he joined the watch to try and prepare it....but he didn't tell anyone because, by that time, nobody believed, and all he had to go on was his sister's word. That, and it certainly seems like part of the prophecy is that as few people as possible should know about it - sorcery being a sword without a hilt. Everyone who knows of it tells as few people as possible to pass it on - perhaps as an attempt to prevent it from being self-fulfilling, as we've seen with other prophecies? The Starks were no longer doing the whole 1/10th of the household goes to the Watch by Ned's time...there must have been a break in the tradition by that point....we know with the Targaryen's that they lost the prophecy due to everyone who knew of it dying during the Dance (and that Rhaegar must have found it while reading, likely from Daenys' personal journal.) I wonder when the Starks lost it?

  • @Mike-di1og
    @Mike-di1og 17 годин тому

    It would be really funny if everyone spent 30 years theorizing why Benjen went to the wall only to have it be because he literally just drew the short straw

  • @benjiskyler7836
    @benjiskyler7836 17 годин тому

    Somehow, Daenerys's dragons didn't know that one does not simply enter the Gates of Mordor.

    • @Ring3R
      @Ring3R 17 годин тому

      In fairness, the magic boundary of the wall had already been broken by that point. I dislike the way they did it too, but it's not a plot hole. That episode was especially dumb though.

    • @joetheblu3
      @joetheblu3 12 годин тому

      bran broke it when he got touched by the night king

    • @benjiskyler7836
      @benjiskyler7836 11 годин тому

      @@joetheblu3 But if whatever magic that keeps dragons south of the Wall and White Walkers north of it was neutralized by Bran getting marked by the Night King, why did the Night King need Viserion to dracarys part of the Wall at Eastwatch?

    • @Ring3R
      @Ring3R 7 годин тому

      @@benjiskyler7836 Because it was still a huge physical obstacle. The only ways through were small gates, which could have been easily defended or simply filled with rocks.

    • @joetheblu3
      @joetheblu3 54 хвилини тому

      @@benjiskyler7836 because he wanted to make a hole in it for his army, theres no way pass the wall without go through a door

  • @dornishdame383
    @dornishdame383 18 годин тому

    Love the video! This theory is one I thought a lot about last season& it was amazing to have more lore in the season opener. Do you think it possible that given the number of years between Daenys foretelling the Doom & it happening, Torrhen started the tradition because he assumed it meant the attack by the Others was imminent? Looking forward to more videos through the season :)

  • @TheDisputedLands
    @TheDisputedLands 18 годин тому

    bravo! Great content my friend. House Strong, I mean Stark for the win!

  • @nononono3421
    @nononono3421 18 годин тому

    Starks only provided old fighters in ep1, so I think there will be a second demand for more fighters, settled with the pact of ice and fire. I think we are getting Sara Snow later.

  • @thisguy8106
    @thisguy8106 18 годин тому

    Rhan is going to tell Jace about the prophecy and THEN Jace will go back to the North.

    • @nononono3421
      @nononono3421 18 годин тому

      Not only that, only old fighters were provided, which Jace didn’t mention. I think he will have to do a second demand, and it will be sealed with the pact of ice and fire.

  • @victorc8855
    @victorc8855 18 годин тому

    If Larys killed all of Mysaria's spies, would he also be.... a ratcatcher??? theories confirmed

  • @KingOfWinter
    @KingOfWinter 19 годин тому

    Do you think they are just going to keep Cregan out of the show till the hour of the wolf? Since Cregan looks young still I think we could see a concurrent story running in Winterfell of Cregan‘s uncle taking power and Cregan having to get Winterfell back, which would explain why it took so long to get south. They could say his uncle is an Aegon supporter and a sexist who doesn’t think the rights of the woman should come before the eldest male as well as he’s upset Cregan sent his eldest son to man the wall and have the greens support his coup. It would be a clever way to parallel/contrast what’s happening down south while keeping the starks in the story for as long as possible.

    • @JoeMagician
      @JoeMagician 19 годин тому

      I do think he's not coming back this season. What we've been shown in promos and casting information shows that the season will end likely before even the Winter Wolves arrive. There's a slight possibility of a check in with Cregan and the North and Roddy the Ruin near the end of this season, only slight though. They are hamstrung for time after losing two episodes versus season 1, and it seems a lot of the North got cut for that. In the behind the scenes they put in a lot of effort to rebuild the Wall sets showing I think they planned to do more with this.

  • @leahpearce5128
    @leahpearce5128 19 годин тому

    Omg cant believe i forgot the fun part of my comment too. I am holding out for a season 3 Daeron appearance....and criston cole is the father! season 1 becomes way more ridiculous and i love it :D

  • @maggyfrog
    @maggyfrog 19 годин тому

    i vaguely remember a promo photo of jace having the dagger with him, so maybe rhaenyra will tell him about the prophecy soon enough

    • @JoeMagician
      @JoeMagician 19 годин тому

      Ohh interesting, I must've missed that! Curious how they would get the dagger away from Aegon....

    • @maggyfrog
      @maggyfrog 19 годин тому

      @@JoeMagician so i can't find that image now. i might be mistaken and it could just be aegon haha